1310
親愛的金友,今天很忙,到機場接我們家老爺和公子回家了,到現在才有時間上電腦,所以,以後,又要
回去當 "跪婦" 了,沒太多時間爬牆 (爬文)了。如果,我有買或賣,一定會告知大家,但那是我個人選擇,請勿當真喔! 祝大家賺錢喔
1. 我昨天砍掉生技股 (都是希拉蕊,本來漲好好的,這是政治做空)和基金,先轉往大陸了一陣子再說
2. 我昨天遇到一個朋友的金有,是黑田大師的信眾 (Martin Armstrong),說黃金的循環,一直說黃
金會和美股一起見頂 (9月),我拭目以待,所以,金甲蟲之路,各種派別都有 。
3. 明天小小加碼,黃金基金,算 (六) 淨值
4. 以下和大家分享三篇文章,請當娛樂看看----
外國很多,分析師都以1310,作為本次是否再往下的跌的分水嶺,在這裡分享三篇文章
第一篇,是中期分析黃金,第二篇,是長期分析黃金 (兩篇同一作者,告知你,黃金大多頭,
可能還要等頗久 ),但我認為應該不用等那麼久,因為現在的環境與時空,是非常時期
第三篇,是我八月初看的,看到價錢,讓我眼睛都亮了。他是黃金的大多頭,但認為,
黃金破1310,要先大修正 ,而他所設的買點,我很有興趣
回覆 金正夯:親愛的金友,今天很忙,到機場接我們家老爺...
Andrew McElroy aug 19
Summary
Gold (GLD) prices have changed very little since the Brexit spike on 24th June. This sideways pause after a rally can be interpreted in two ways: bullish consolidation, or bearish distribution. So which one is it?
黃金(GLD自6月24日的Brexit)價格變化不大。在反彈後,橫盤可以有兩種方式進行解釋 : 空 或 多? 。那麼,哪一個是什麼呢?
Anyone trying to answer this question with fundamental analysis may have a hard time. The recent Fed minutes had little effect, despite some hawkish comments. The dollar declining has had no effect. The risk-on rally in equities couldn't budge gold out of the range. We do know it will eventually break the range. Balance always leads to imbalance, but what the catalyst will be is anyone's guess.
任何人試圖以基本面來分析這個問題可能很困難。最近美聯儲會議紀要影響不大,儘管有一些強硬評論,和美元的下降,都沒有效果。股市風險增大,也無法讓黃金超出這個範圍。 我們知道它最終會打破盤整。但什麼是催化劑? 將是人們的猜測。
The eventual trigger may be fairly insignificant in the bigger picture. Oil's recent rally came after inventories. Did it justify a 25% rally? I'd say no; some even interpreted the data as bearish. It doesn't take much to spark a big move when conditions such as positioning and sentiment are right.
最終的觸發改變的的事,可能在大局中相當微不足道。舉例說明,公佈庫存後,石油公司迎來了漲勢。難道這足以說明25%的反彈?我認為沒有; 有的甚至認為,該數據是利空。所以,要觸發一件事,它並不需要花太多的力氣,尤其是,倉位和情緒的條件都具備時。
Price went sideways for several weeks before shorts peaking in early June. It took nearly two months before price made any meaningful move. In this case it was價格橫盤了好幾個星期在六 down.
這是石油的圖表,在六月初,空倉達到頂峰之前,。花了將近兩個月的時間,價格才採取有意義的舉動。在這種情況下,它下跌了。
We don't actually know if the commercial shorts in gold have peaked. They may well increase again. But for now the pattern seems to fit with that of oil.
實際上,我們還不知道,黃金的商業空頭是否已經見頂。他們很可能再次增加。但就目前而言的黃金,他的格局似乎與當時的石油很像。
This is only one piece of the puzzle, but oil suggests a fake break higher before a larger move down.
In terms of retail positioning, this kind of move messes up both sides. Shorts are stopped on the new high, and bulls get trapped by a fake breakout.
這只是現在黃金的一塊小拼圖,但可以拿來和剛剛的油價圖表做比較。在大跌之前,還有一個假突破。
在零售的倉位而言,這種走勢會讓多空都混亂。空頭停損在新高
而多頭,被套在假突破。
Technicals 技術指標
I dedicated a section to precious metals in my cycles and trends review. This mostly focused on the longer term outlook and I said only this on the shorter term,
我有寫一篇關於貴金屬的循環與趨勢。那篇主要著重在長期的觀點,而我這篇只著重在短期的走勢
Short term gold is in a wave 'C' from the $1200 low. Equality with wave 'A' would take it into the $1430s, but structurally it may already be complete.
短期來說,黃金是處於從1200低點起漲的C浪。因為與A浪相等,所以應漲到1430。但就結構上來說,很可能C浪已經完成了。
When there is a lack of clarity in the cycles I stay out and wait for signals. A simple trendline break could be enough to tell us wave 'C' is over and a decline back to $1200 likely.
當現在,還缺乏明確的走向時,我選擇觀望,並等待訊號。只要一個趨勢線的跌破,就可確認C 浪已結束。很可能跌回到1200
Gold did break the trendline, and you could say it has re-tested the break. 從下圖,我們可以看到,黃金的確已跌破趨勢線,而且再次測試
However, I interpret this as a very weak signal. If the break had declined below $1310, then re-tested, it would be much more reliable.
然而,我還是認為這是很微弱的訊號,假如最後,跌破1310,然後在側一次,那就會更可靠了。
Given the $1430 equality target and the bull trap suggested by oil, I won't be taking any short positions.
有鑑於 1430的等幅目標價和石油所做的假突破,我目前還不會做空
If gold were to break above $1375, then fail and reverse back below, I'd be quite confident in shorting. $1375 is such a huge technical level.
但假如黃金最後突破 1375,然後又掉下來,那我就會很有信心的放空。因為1375是一個重要的技術指標 (剛好B波反彈 0.382)
Most shorts would capitulate on a breakout, and bulls will want to hold for higher. A failed break would be a good signal that gold is getting ahead of itself.
很多空頭會在突破時認輸,而多頭則想要再漲更高。一個假突破,是一個很好的訊號,告知你黃金的走勢
Conclusions
Bullish consolidation or bearish distribution? Unfortunately I can't conclude anything for certain. I would lean towards the latter, but there is not enough edge for me to take a position. A failed break above $1375 would make me a lot more confident.
現在是空還多,目前還沒有足夠的證據,但如果,突破1375,又掉下來,我就可以確認了
回覆 金正夯:Andrew McElroy ...
第一篇 剛剛沒有圖
Andrew McElroy aug 19
Summary
Gold (GLD) prices have changed very little since the Brexit spike on 24th June. This sideways pause after a rally can be interpreted in two ways: bullish consolidation, or bearish distribution. So which one is it?
黃金(GLD自6月24日的Brexit)價格變化不大。在反彈後,橫盤可以有兩種方式進行解釋 : 空 或 多? 。那麼,哪一個是什麼呢?
Anyone trying to answer this question with fundamental analysis may have a hard time. The recent Fed minutes had little effect, despite some hawkish comments. The dollar declining has had no effect. The risk-on rally in equities couldn't budge gold out of the range. We do know it will eventually break the range. Balance always leads to imbalance, but what the catalyst will be is anyone's guess.
任何人試圖以基本面來分析這個問題可能很困難。最近美聯儲會議紀要影響不大,儘管有一些強硬評論,和美元的下降,都沒有效果。股市風險增大,也無法讓黃金超出這個範圍。 我們知道它最終會打破盤整。但什麼是催化劑? 將是人們的猜測。
The eventual trigger may be fairly insignificant in the bigger picture. Oil's recent rally came after inventories. Did it justify a 25% rally? I'd say no; some even interpreted the data as bearish. It doesn't take much to spark a big move when conditions such as positioning and sentiment are right.
最終的觸發改變的的事,可能在大局中相當微不足道。舉例說明,公佈庫存後,石油公司迎來了漲勢。難道這足以說明25%的反彈?我認為沒有; 有的甚至認為,該數據是利空。所以,要觸發一件事,它並不需要花太多的力氣,尤其是,倉位和情緒的條件都具備時。
Price went sideways for several weeks before shorts peaking in early June. It took nearly two months before price made any meaningful move. In this case it was價格橫盤了好幾個星期在六 down.
這是石油的圖表,在六月初,空倉達到頂峰之前,。花了將近兩個月的時間,價格才採取有意義的舉動。在這種情況下,它下跌了。
We don't actually know if the commercial shorts in gold have peaked. They may well increase again. But for now the pattern seems to fit with that of oil.
實際上,我們還不知道,黃金的商業空頭是否已經見頂。他們很可能再次增加。但就目前而言的黃金,他的格局似乎與當時的石油很像。
This is only one piece of the puzzle, but oil suggests a fake break higher before a larger move down.
In terms of retail positioning, this kind of move messes up both sides. Shorts are stopped on the new high, and bulls get trapped by a fake breakout.
這只是現在黃金的一塊小拼圖,但可以拿來和剛剛的油價圖表做比較。在大跌之前,還有一個假突破。
在零售的倉位而言,這種走勢會讓多空都混亂。空頭停損在新高
而多頭,被套在假突破。
Technicals 技術指標
I dedicated a section to precious metals in my cycles and trends review. This mostly focused on the longer term outlook and I said only this on the shorter term,
我有寫一篇關於貴金屬的循環與趨勢。那篇主要著重在長期的觀點,而我這篇只著重在短期的走勢
Short term gold is in a wave 'C' from the $1200 low. Equality with wave 'A' would take it into the $1430s, but structurally it may already be complete.
短期來說,黃金是處於從1200低點起漲的C浪。因為與A浪相等,所以應漲到1430。但就結構上來說,很可能C浪已經完成了。
When there is a lack of clarity in the cycles I stay out and wait for signals. A simple trendline break could be enough to tell us wave 'C' is over and a decline back to $1200 likely.
當現在,還缺乏明確的走向時,我選擇觀望,並等待訊號。只要一個趨勢線的跌破,就可確認C 浪已結束。很可能跌回到1200
Gold did break the trendline, and you could say it has re-tested the break. 從下圖,我們可以看到,黃金的確已跌破趨勢線,而且再次測試
However, I interpret this as a very weak signal. If the break had declined below $1310, then re-tested, it would be much more reliable.
然而,我還是認為這是很微弱的訊號,假如最後,跌破1310,然後在側一次,那就會更可靠了。
Given the $1430 equality target and the bull trap suggested by oil, I won't be taking any short positions.
有鑑於 1430的等幅目標價和石油所做的假突破,我目前還不會做空
If gold were to break above $1375, then fail and reverse back below, I'd be quite confident in shorting. $1375 is such a huge technical level.
但假如黃金最後突破 1375,然後又掉下來,那我就會很有信心的放空。因為1375是一個重要的技術指標 (剛好B波反彈 0.382)
Most shorts would capitulate on a breakout, and bulls will want to hold for higher. A failed break would be a good signal that gold is getting ahead of itself.
很多空頭會在突破時認輸,而多頭則想要再漲更高。一個假突破,是一個很好的訊號,告知你黃金的走勢
Conclusions
Bullish consolidation or bearish distribution? Unfortunately I can't conclude anything for certain. I would lean towards the latter, but there is not enough edge for me to take a position. A failed break above $1375 would make me a lot more confident.
現在是空還多,目前還沒有足夠的證據,但如果,突破1375,又掉下來,我就可以確認了
回覆 金正夯:第一篇 剛剛沒有圖 Andre...
第二篇 是長期趨勢的推論
Andrew McElroy
Gold and silver traded into bubble territory in 2011, and this will affect them for a long time to come. As much as the movements of the precious metals are correlated, there are important differences in the cycles which could lead to a disconnect over time.
黃金和白銀交易在2011年進入泡沫,這將影響他們很長一段時間來。因為很多貴金屬的漲跌是相關的,而在循環中所產生的差異,可能導致不連貫。
Gold Gold's (NYSEARCA:GLD) decline has not been as severe as many boom and bust cycles (e.g. oil], but the lack of a crash only delays the need to correct. There are further declines to come. The four-year bear market of 2011-2015 completed the first leg down of the correction in wave "A".
金價的下跌一直沒有像許多"經歷繁榮和蕭條"週期的產品(如石油)那樣嚴重,但缺乏崩跌只會延遲修正的需要。所以,有進一步下滑的可能性。 2011 - 2015年的四年熊市完成了第一腳波“A”的修正下來。
This was a nearly perfect "impulsive" wave. Wave 1 and wave 5 were equal in size at around $390, plus wave 3 was the strongest, longest and was very near 161.8* wave 1. These are perfect ratios contained in a trend channel which was broken strongly when the trend completed. We are now in wave "B". The big question is, what will wave "B" look like? All we really know is that it can't go higher than the 2011 highs, and it will eventually reverse into another decline for wave C; a classic ABC correction.
這是一個近乎完美的“衝動”浪潮。浪1和浪5是大小相等約為$ 390,此外,浪3最強,時間最長,是接近浪1的161.8。 當趨勢通道被打破時,裡面包含了一個完美比例當。我們現在在“B”浪。 最大的問題是,究竟“B”浪會長什麼樣子?我們真正知道的是,它不能去比2011高點更高,它最終將扭轉到另一下滑C浪; 一個典型的ABC修正。
This is the long-term framework, but we need more accuracy than that. We can look at the smaller time frames, but they are not always reliable, and I prefer to first look at historical precedence. Has gold ever been in a similar situation before, and what happened?
這是在長期的框架,我們需要更多的精準度。我們可以看看更小的時間框架,但他們並一定總是可靠,我以,我更喜歡先來看看歷史先例。黃金曾經在類似的情況之前,發生了什麼?
Gold has indeed been in bubble territory before with a +790% rally in four years from 1976 to 1980. The reaction to this rally has many similar traits to the more recent reaction in 2011-2015. The above chart suggests wave "B" could be a long, protracted affair and a re-test of the lows is likely. This fits with post bubble price action; new trends take a long, long time to develop, and moves in both directions will likely be faded.
從1976年到1980年反彈 790%之前,黃金確實處於泡沫區 。這波漲勢有很多特徵都和2011 - 2015的漲勢很像。 上面的圖表顯示“B”浪可能是一個長期的,曠日持久的,所以再測一次低點是可能的。這符合泡沫後的價格行為; 新的趨勢需要很長很長的時間來發展,直到多空兩個方向都可能會逐漸消退。
Further evidence comes from the price action of 1993-2003, a period with some similar fundamental drivers (strengthening dollar, crisis in Asia and a crash in oil).
進一步的證據來自於1993年至2003年的價格走勢,具有一些相似的基本驅動因素(美元走強,危機在亞洲和石油崩潰)的期間。
The structure of the declines has many similarities. And once the downtrend completes, there is a strong rally/short squeeze, which fades and gives way to a re-test of the lows. This is exactly what happened in 1982-1985 in the first chart. Gold is notorious for fooling the majority of retail traders; it stays in a range for most of the time and only breaks when most have given up and lost interest.
跌幅結構有很多相似之處。而一旦跌勢結束後,有較強的反彈/軋空,之後,漲勢消退,再測一次低點。這是1982 - 1985年的第一個圖表中到底發生了什麼。 黃金是臭名昭彰,最愛愚弄廣大散戶; 它大部分時間都停留在一個範圍內,只有當大家都放棄了並失去了興趣,它才會突破。
回覆 金正夯:最後一篇,又是落落長的分析,我就不翻譯了...
我還是對人性很有信心,越有度量的人 ,人生後期所顯現出來的福報,越明顯。人算不如天算,賺多少,是老天爺賞了這是我的人生哲學。
我認為,做投資,一次買對,不代表以後都會對,因為賺錢要靠 ---- 三分運氣 (或福報),三分努力,四分人格特質,是半天生的,與智商,功課無關,我也還在學習。要不,我現在就可以確定多空了
有一種昆蟲,只要生活空間壓力大,就會從草食性的蚱蜢變肉食性的蝗蟲,殘害同類,直到,大部分都死了,生存空間再次出現,才會再轉變回蚱蜢。我看到了,現在世界的亂象,越來越有這樣了趨勢了。
我現在就是先小買,再破線,就再往下買,突破,就往上買,過了1375,就沿路出脫到只剩 30%
別筆戰了,我要休息一陣子,如果我有大變動的改變,我會很負責任的告知大家
回覆 旁觀新人:夯大, 請問第三篇方便貼網址嗎? 再次感...
這篇是較早的,講的是黃金6個月一循環,當時他認為低點已經交代了
http://news.gold-eagle.com/article/gold-prices-explaining-6-month-gold-cycle/314
這是第二篇,因為盤太久了,他檢視自己的看法
http://news.gold-eagle.com/article/gold-forecast-next-great-buying-opportunity/346
這是第三篇,是最新這一篇
http://news.gold-eagle.com/article/are-gold-and-silver-prices-about-break-lower/356
反正,就是各種文章,多多閱讀,增廣見聞,不可否認,我因為看了很多文章,才轉短空 (or even 中空),但也不放棄,可能還有一個高點,才回落 ,所以才沒賣光
回覆 Ang:跪婦真忙,妳是在台灣接機還是美國接機?最...
哪有,只是去桃園接人而已。
我想我是短(中)空裡,相對樂觀的。所以,我還是,認為,九月聯準會議後,有機會來個高點。然後,就要等到 2017年了 (很怕被說,不準就不要在那邊報,或佔據上帝的位置。其實,有時,大家也只是純粹分享,錯了,或別人糾正了,才能知道自己的盲點,並且,進步不是嗎?)
如果每個人,都想看陰謀,國與國的角力,黃金的長期重要性,我想,網路上有很多這樣的文章。
我是一個 trader 不是一個 investor,我只想賺錢啊,所以,真希望,今晚,破底翻!!!!
黃金在1046落底,第一輪漲到1283,回檔85美元 (約0.382)。
第二次上漲177美元 (1198-1375),
目前處於回檔之中,假如這次再回檔至0.382位置那大概就是1312美元了,若回檔50%那大概就是1292.5美元,但是1300是重要關卡,所以,假跌破,誘空不是不可能。
第一次上漲,整理天數大概為88天,
第二次上漲,到目前為止,已經整理50天。
所以,按照時間和技術來看,下一次如果要上漲的話,那大概要到9月份22日美國公佈美聯儲利率決議。
對於9月是否會加息,可能性還是有的,畢竟6月和7月的非農資料表現還是不錯,如果8月非農資料持續讓人”驚艷”,9月加息的機率還是有的,不過,因為11月是美國總統大選,加息,對美國經濟帶來的衝擊,我想是 Yellen 要考慮的。
回覆 金正夯:道瓊 ,可能還可以撐一陣子吧 !所以台股...
還好我單身啊,不然早上幹體力活,下班後還真沒心思多想很多事。
一個市場,人來來去去很正常...
只記得我遇到許多不錯的人,願意教我讓我多學很多事情就好了。
自己也盡己所能,雖然很有限,但是也要把自己知道,但別人不知道的事情分享給大家。
這是善的循環
我也是打算農曆年左右把大部位抽離黃金市場...
去做更勞心勞力的標的學更多東西
今天又找到一個不錯的網站,某個好心人私人做的
裡面單純的只有資料跟工具而已....也沒有什麼討論區
在我乍看之下,各處都能感受到作者的良善。
我只是想推一下好人做好事...
回覆 Ang:嗯~有道理!...
聽聽就好啦,那是我個人的做法,不一定準確 !!!! 如果非農真的不錯,星期五或下星期一,二,都可以買。我只是認為9月不會升息,但如果升息,就要先修正,所以看每個人的選擇,gdx 已破26,若到25.5 可以加減買。
我現在的做法是,星期五如果大跌,下星期一或二進場買,然後等9/22, 如果很幸運不加息,開始反彈,彈到接近 1375左右,就全出清。但,如果加息,直接下殺 (中空),從1250 就開始定期定額,每個月扣10萬 (之前賣的拿來扣),跟它耗長多了 (黃金確實長多,只是長多前,會修正到哪,要持續多久,誰也不知道)
我家老爺和我的金友們,還是認為,美股和黃金高點在9月 (看法沒變,黃金也沒跌很多,gdx 和黃金基金,卻已跌15%,黃金和黃金基金的做法,真的不一樣)
回覆 Ang:嗯!嗯!剛剛看技術分析正好是下跌到0.3...
請教一下厲害的大大們:看到黃金ETF持倉量連續幾天都有賣出,這會影響金價可能再下跌嗎? 感謝
http://fx.caiku.com/pair/etf_chart/SPT_GLD.html
回覆 金正夯:唉呀 ,沒有買很高啊 ,有機會解套的 ,...
嘿嘿~謝謝夯姐大佛心來的拉!~所以菜鳥呆妹就來這裡磨練一下等待的耐心及何時進出的敏銳度嚕,這次會捨得賣的!^^~但真的不容易抓出點呀,菜鳥呆妹因為目前還不會看線圖,目前時間上也比較無法常盯盤做空課,只能看看你們有po出來的前輩們的文當參考(真的很謝謝你們),然後搭配自己的直覺,但還是兩光兩光的..哈哈!~我知道要靠自己努力做空課是很重要的拉~有時間一定會來練一下基本功,夯姐大大或其他大大有沒適合初學者入門學看線圖的書可以推薦的呢? 來這兩個多月,我僅知道懶懶大是新手中技術線分析挺強的,不知道是否也可以浮出來推薦一下ㄋ...可以的話,就太感謝嚕XDD
祝大家賺錢喔
回覆 路人:嘿嘿~謝謝夯姐大佛心來的拉!~所以菜鳥呆...
其實我只確定黃金是長多,只是最近 ,有些不確定黃金到底會不會走中空 (也就是修正到1250 或甚至1200),若按基本面與循環 ,它應該要有一個大的修正 ,但世界局勢與對金融危機的避險情緒又支撐著它 ,像昨天非農開的不好 ,按照道理 ,大家應該認為9月是不會加息 ,但美元指數下跌至95.32,之後大幅反彈,超數據公布前的水平;日元急漲後下跌劇烈;美國10年期國債收益率小跌2Bp之後反而調頭向上。似乎 ,有些我們不知道的事 ,正在發生 ,希望我是多想 !不過對於 ,黃金長期投資者來說 ,他們應該不會介意黃金跌到1250 ,他們只會覺得 ,再加碼 ,或方向對了 ,就抱緊 !